X-Plane

[ulfen69]

Hej!
Efter att ha lämnat Microsoft bakom mig så ville jag ha en ny flygsimulator.
Kollade på nätet och fastnade för X-Plane.

Det var en installerare som skulle laddas ner för att användas. Tycker att dokumentationen är lite knapphändig för en som bara har haft Linux några månader.

Laddade ned och packade upp.

När jag ska köra får jag får felmeddelandet:
Cannot open /home/ulfen69/Desktop/X-Plane-athlon-xp: No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file.

Är det någon som vet hur man gör? Som kan ge lite hjälp på traven?
Var ska filerna vara?

[vulfgar]

Hmm, jag laddade hem demot till den för ett tag sen, men jag kommer inte ihåg var jag la filen. Ska fundera och titta lite och återkommer om jag kommer på hur det var. Fungerade fint att installera i alla fall, men demot tog slut alldeles för fort, precis lagom tills jag ställt in så att spakarna funkade på rätt sätt så var tiden ute. 


Edit: Nu laddade jag hem install-filen och testade. Försökte köra den i terminalen utan att lyckas, men det var bara att dubbelklicka på filen i nautilus.  Så nu installerar den sej.

[ulfen69]

Jag blir inte klok på detta

Försökte mig på igen att installera. Då jag följde råden i en "howto text" (se längre  ner) så fick jag detta från terminalen:

"ulfen69@ulfen69-desktop:~$ /tmp/X-Plane-DVD-Install
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Whoah -- no matter how hard I tried, I failed to get a GLX visual. Something's seriously wonky on your machine.
ulfen69@ulfen69-desktop:~$ "

Vad göra nu? Det här var ju inte för en med måttlig vana av Linux

Jag har en AMD athlon XP 3200+
GeForce 5200. Test i Cedega säger mig att jag har rätt drivrutiner.
1024 MB RAM

Kan texten nedan vara till nån hjälp?
""
X-System 8.21 / Installer 1.03-lin1-dvd
Linux release

X-System for Macintosh and Windows by Austin Meyer <austin@x-plane.com>
Linux port by Joshua Wise <linux@x-plane.com>

Release date:
2005-12-03

HELLO! ************************************************************************

Hello X-Users!

Please read this file all the way through! It has some helpful hints!

Thanks!
joshua

INSTALLATION: WEB *************************************************************

The X-System now has an installer. Run the installer and point it at where
it should install, and it'll do the appropriate things. You may need to set
the installer as executable if it is not already set that way.

For optimization for your system, feel free to change the architecture in
the preferences box from Generic x86 to Pentium 3 or Athlon XP. These
architectures correspond to i686, pentium-3, and athlon-xp in previouos
builds.

For example:

$ gunzip X-Plane-820-Net-Install.gz
$ chmod +x X-Plane-820-Net-Install
$ ./X-Plane-820-Net-Install

There are presently two errata for the installer.

1) You may need to set the installed binaries as executable after
installation is complete. This can be done in much the same way that the net
install binary was set as executable previously.

2) Sometimes the installer segmentation faults on exit. This is a known
issue, and we are looking into it. No data has been corrupted.

INSTALLATION: DVD *************************************************************

The X-System now has an installer. Run the installer and point it at where
it should install, and it'll do the appropriate things. You may need to set
the installer as executable if it is not already set that way.

For optimization for your system, feel free to change the architecture in
the preferences box from Generic x86 to Pentium 3 or Athlon XP. These
architectures correspond to i686, pentium-3, and athlon-xp in previouos
builds.

For example:

$ ./X-Plane-DVD-Install

It is possible that your DVD may not have the appropriate executable bits
set. If this is the case, please copy the installer to a temporary location,
and set it as executable manually, as such:

$ cp X-Plane-DVD-Install /tmp
$ chmod +x /tmp/X-Plane-DVD-Install
$ /tmp/X-Plane-DVD-Install

There are presently two errata for the installer.

1) You may need to set the installed binaries as executable after
installation is complete. This can be done in much the same way that the net
install binary was set as executable previously.

2) Sometimes the installer segmentation faults on exit. This is a known
issue, and we are looking into it. No data has been corrupted.

RUNNING X-SYSTEM **************************************************************

The X-System apps are very easy to get running. cd into the directory in which
X-System is stored, and then run the binary corresponding to your architecture.

For example, if you are on an Athlon XP machine:

$ cd x-system/
$ ./X-Plane-821-athlon-xp

X-System should now run outside of its own directory. If you have
problems, please report the errors to <linux@x-plane.com>, and try again
from inside the X-System directory.

CHANGELOG *********************************************************************

X-System 821 final: 2005-12-03
  * Fixed some critical bugs
  * Various changes from CVS
X-System 820 final: 2005-11-28
  * Changed some X code for proper full-screen support. You should now be
    able to alt-tab away from X-Plane.
  * Various other Linux-specific changes
  * Various changes from CVS
X-System 816 final: 2005-07-04
  * Added PowerPC support
  * Various changes from CVS
X-System 811rc2: 2005-04-09
  * Fixed joystick support
  * Fixed real weather downloads
  * Various changes from Austin's tree.
X-System 806 final: 2005-01-31
  * Included -dev binaries in DVD build for users who wish to debug crashes.
  * Various changes from Austin's tree.
X-System 804 final: 2005-01-19
  * ENV vs DSF load order is right.
  * Cursor properly set up for X11.
  * BMP works for Linux.
  * Added code to joystick to work around 64-bit kernel breakage.
  * Various changes from Austinland.
X-System 804rc2: 2005-01-06
  * Reconverted BMPs to PNGs.
  * Various changes from Austinland.
X-System 804rc1: 2005-01-01
  * Migrated to CVS.
  * Celebrated the new year.
  * Case-desensitized paths.
  * Various changes from Austin's tree.
X-System 803: 2004-12-11
  * Hopefully fixed all these crashers.
  * Various changes from Austin's tree.
X-System 802: 2004-11-26
  * Converted bmps to pngs to fix black texture bug.
  * Various changes from Austin's tree.
X-System 801: 2004-11-14
  * Added demo v8 scenery.
  * Various changes from Austin's tree.
X-System 800: 2004-11-08
  * Added version 8 scenery.
  * Wrote an installer.
  * Various changes from Austin's tree.
X-System 800B17: 2004-11-07
  * Built against different static libraries for i586 and i686
  * Added sorting for filenames in dialog boxes
  * Fixed bug where X-Plane would try to load road network "test.net"
  * Fixed weapons loading in Japanese Anime
  * Ported updater (may or may not be released)
  * Various changes from Austin's tree
X-System 800B15: 2004-11-04
  * Various changes from Austin's tree
X-System 800B14 (unreleased): 2004-11-04
  * Built i686 binaries without 3dnow support for idiotic Intel processors
  * fixed ATC using return key
  * probably other fixes, too
  * various changes from Austin's tree
X-System 800B13: 2004-10-31
  * Joystick and keyboard handling fixes
  * Added XSYS_NO_GRAB_KEYBOARD environment variable checking
  * Built binaries for i586, i686, and athlon-xp (as well as dev binaries
    for all)
  * Added X-Plane and World-Maker
  * Various changes from Austin's tree
X-System 800B8: 2004-10-24
  * initial release of Linux port

ERRATA ************************************************************************

820 errata:
  * QuickTime movies do not work, and likely will not until Apple ports it
    to Linux - or until I write code to do ffmpeg stuff instead. (therefore,
    the QuickTime Settings... option will provide unpredictable results.)
  * At present, there is no working speech output support. Festival TTS
    support is on the to-do list for a later version.
  * Sometimes when the X11 cursor is supposed to be hidden, it instead shows
    up as a white line.
  * Sometimes plugins blow up entirely, or parts of the sim fall apart. If
    you see this on your system, please contact X-Plane Linux support.
    This should be fixed in X-Plane 8.16 and higher -- if you see this,
    do not hesitate to contact X-Plane Linux support.
  * Joystick POV hats are not correctly handled yet.
  * Some users report that the left and right arrow keys are reversed.

POWERPC-SPECIFIC NOTES ********************************************************

PowerPC support is exceptionally beta. This was developed with the generous
donation of an Open Desktop Workstation from Genesi, who makes it. This
release only includes the subapps for the moment, while we work out some
performance issues. If it doesn't run on your PowerPC Linux machine, and
your machine is a G4 or higher, please contact X-Plane Linux support, and
we'll try to work it out with you.

X-Plane 8.2x does not yet have PowerPC support.

TROUBLESHOOTING ***************************************************************

If an X-System app complains that "It seems that you have moved X-Plane out of
the X-System folder!", what it is really trying to say is that it cannot
find the "Resources" directory (or some critical files therein). Make sure you
are running X-System from its directory, and if all else fails, reinstall it.

If an X-System app suddenly dies with the message "Killed", it is possible that
your system has run out of memory while running X-System. Enable swap and try
again.

If an X-System app suddenly dies (or refuses to start) with the message
"Illegal Instruction", it is possible that you are not running the appropriate
binary for your architecture, or that your architecture's binary requires
functionality that your CPU does not support. Try running a binary compiled
for an older processor (i.e., if you are trying i686, try i586 instead.) The
libstdc++ linked in may depend on more than that listed, so if you are
running the i586 binary, and you are still unable to run X-System, that may
be the cause. Contact technical support as listed below if you get this message,
and include the contents of /proc/cpuinfo.

If an X-System app refuses to launch, saying that it cannot find
libopenal.so.0, your system does not have OpenAL installed. Get an OpenAL
binary for your architecture. (or compile it from source. Really, X-Plane
doesn't care.)

If X-Plane sounds really weird, your OpenAL might be outdated. Upgrade it.

If X-Plane will not leave demo mode, please make sure that you have the
DVD mounted at one of the following locations:
  * /mnt/cdrom
  * /cdrom
  * /media/cdrom
  * /mnt/dvd
  * /dvd
  * /media/dvd
  * /mnt/x-plane
  * /mnt/xplane

TECHNICAL SUPPORT *************************************************************

The author of the Linux port has agreed to take technical support inquiries,
provided that they are properly formed. However, unfortunately the Linux
port author's time is limited, and he cannot make any guarantees as to
whether you will get a response.

PLEASE read the article at:
  http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html

before emailing with a technical support question! QUESTIONS/BUG REPORTS THAT
IGNORE THE GUIDELINES ON SAID ARTICLE WILL BE ROUTED IMMEDIATELY TO /dev/null,
DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200!

Please do NOT privmsg me on IRC. I idle there to hang out; if I am available
for support on IRC, I'll respond to your request in channel. Otherwise, I'll
probably ignore it, and you'll have to email me like everybody else does.
C'est la vie.

EMAIL *************************************************************************

If you need help with X-System for Linux, please email linux@x-plane.com AFTER
reading the section labeled "TECHNICAL SUPPORT".

DO NOT BOTHER EMAILING ME if your ISP blocks email from dynamic IPs. ISPs
(or mail servers) known to do this include:
  * AOL
  * T-Online (.de)
  * Easydns.com
  * uq.edu.au
  * verizon.net
  * wakko.sv.vt.edu

I will respond to all email that people send me if I can. If I don't, your
ISP is broken. Fix it.

END OF FILE *******************************************************************

[vulfgar]

Har du försökt på "windows-vis", dvs att öppna nautilus, leta reda på installationsfilen och dubbelklicka den?
Det är möjligt att du måste göra filen körbar först, högerklicka på den, Egenskaper, fliken Rättigheter. Sätt en bock vid Kör: "Tillåt körning av filen som ett program".

[Kerath]

Prova att öppna en terminal och skriv "glxgears", vad händer? Det kan vara att dina grafikdrivrutiner inte är  korrekt installerade.

[ulfen69]

Jo. Det är nog så att det är nåt fel med drivrutinerna.
Jag skrev: glxgears i terminalen  och fick följande:

"ulfen69@ulfen69-desktop:~$ glxgears
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
ulfen69@ulfen69-desktop:~$ "

Till saken hör att jag hade problem tidigare med xorg.conf när jag skulle installera drivrutiner för mitt Nvidia-kort.

Tappade bort "grafiken" ett tag, men lyckades efter lite hjälp härifrån att få igång det igen. Dock så hittade jag inte Nvidia första gången i listan som man får upp när man kör dpkg-reconfig -phigh xserve-xorg.

Andra gången (X strulade en gång till) så ville den inte med  Nvidia utan jag fick ta "nv" igen.
Jag har Cedega. I ett test i den så såg det ut som allt var OK med open GL och 3D.

Ser att i skrivande stund så fungerar det inte. Har väl inte gjort något som påvisat de problemen.

Jag ska göra ett försök att byta ut "nv" mot Nvidia.

På återseende. Jag lär behöva mera hjälp. 

[ulfen69]

Nu är jag tillbaka efter lite strulande med X.

Det gick INTE bra att byta ut "nv" mot Nvidia!

Kan det bero detta på vilken upplösning jag väljer? Eller är det allvarligare fel? Ska jag installera drivrutinerna igen?
Finns det miljoner andra orsaker 

[ZX Spectrum]

Har du testat att installera Envy?
Fixade till grafiken för min del när det gällde mitt ATI-kort. Fungerar även till Nvidia.

http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html

[ulfen69]

Jag vill bara fråga innan jag kör igång.
Rekomenderar du den "automatiska" installationen? Eller den manuella?

Ska jag köra dpkg-reconfigure och välja Nvidia igen (nu är det "nv")?
Eller gör ENVY detta åt mig?

[ZX Spectrum]

Den enda skillnaden mellan automatiska och manuella metoden var att under manuellt läge så kunde man välja vilken version man ville ha.
Sist körde jag manuellt och valde den nyaste versionen. Kör med den. (hos mig v. 8.35.5)

[ulfen69]

Nu har jag löst drivrutinfrågan (hoppas jag). Jag får tre kugghjul när jag kör "glxgears!
Men det går tyvärr fortfarande inte att starta installeraren för X-Plane
jag får:
" Cannot open /home/ulfen69/X-Plane-DVD-Install: No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file." när jag dubbelklickar på den filen.

Ligger den i fel mapp för att fungera ("hemma mappen") ?

[vulfgar]

Jag har min i hemmamappen. har du gjort den körbar?

Det är möjligt att du måste göra filen körbar först, högerklicka på den, Egenskaper, fliken Rättigheter. Sätt en bock vid Kör: "Tillåt körning av filen som ett program".

[ulfen69]

Tack så mycket för all hjälp! 

Nu fungerar det!

[vulfgar]

Härligt! 

Du får gärna komma med en liten recension av spelet också när du kört lite. 

[ulfen69]

Jag har  inte gjort så mycket sedan installationen. Har haft vissa problem men inte riktigt haft tid att leta svar.
Det är inställningar i spelet. Bland annat för joysticken. Den är hård och överkänslig.
Kanske jag inte har rätt drivrutiner (Sidewinder Force feedback 2) ?

Vet någon vart jag kan först kolla om jag har rätt? Om inte vart jag kan installera om det finns till den jag har?