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Session notes:

* Update GNOME to 3.6
* Take clutter, it works fine with llvmpipe (totem, empathy, gnome-settings-daemon)
* unity-2d will go away anyway, so -3d/compiz already require 3D
* get gnome-contacts installed by default
* ensure we get the css bits used for gnome-contacts into our theme
* gnome-sushi is unblocked now (clutter), might need some style adaption to not look like shell
* let's drop launchpad-integration, it's not that useful for normal users and has an high maintainance cost (delta)
* change gnome-control-center with stack of patches to ubuntu-control-center forked version maintained by the system team
* udisks2 /gvfs
* review GTK patches
* gstreamer 1.0 is coming
* remove remaining python-gtk2 rdepends (mostly oneconf and system-config-printer)
* look at dropping gconf usage from the CD

* unity-2d will go away anyway, so -3d/compiz already require 3D

* change gnome-control-center with stack of patches to ubuntu-control-center forked version maintained by the system team

``A change I'd like to make for 12.10 is to use a compositor to control video from boot to shutdown.
This gives us the following benefits:
- We can have smooth transitions from the splash screen to the greeter to the session and back again
- We don't use VT switching anymore which has been shown to be problematic
- We use one consistent monitor layout for all stages of the boot
- We can use the greeter as the lock screen (couldn't get it to work this cycle for the above reasons)
- We can ensure that you can never accidentally switch to a locked session
- We can show the greeter while the session loads
The technology used will probably be Wayland, and in some ways this change is to implement the Wayland Tech Preview that was proposed for Precise [1].
Note that not all video drivers will support this, and we will continue to support the current system for those that do not support it (primarily the nvidia driver).

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu ... ch-preview
w boot forms, maintaining a plymouth wayland backend, modifying LightDM to support Wayland, adding a desktop session to start a Wayland session, supporting VT switching and of course writing a Wayland compositor itself.

Canonical also plans to approach Nvidia and AMD asking them to integrate this into their binary drivers.

Bowmore skrev:...
Ska man sen tro en i kommentarerna till WebUpd8s inlägg så är redan flera unity-2d designers på väg till kubuntu.
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Rune.K skrev:Det kan hänga ihop med att Unity-2D använder sej av Qt...

Rune.K skrev:Qt har börjat börjat smyga sej in i det vanliga Ubuntut.

Unity 2D was conceived as a fallback mode for computers without the graphics hardware or drivers to run Unity properly. The project uses, as you say, a separate codebase, and has sucked up substantial engineering resources to stay consistent with the main interface.

Luckily, engineers at the Fedora project have successfully developed and integrated a technology for running rich, composited graphical environments on older hardware. Ubuntu can also adopt this solution. As such, Unity 2D as a fallback mode is now superfluous.

Everyone can now enjoy Unity, without the costs of developing a fallback alternative.

vulfgar skrev:Aha! Det blir väl förhoppningsvis en förbättring då, för dom med gammal hårdvara, jämfört med idag.
Börjar bli lite riktigt spännande igen i alla fall, ett tag kändes förändringarna mer som irritationsmoment.

Rune.K skrev:Vad är det för effekter i Unity som kräver ett 3d-kort, egentligen?

Rune.K skrev:Angående Qt i Ubuntu, så är det här intressant att läsa. > http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/568

As part of our planning for Natty+1, we’ll need to find some space on the CD for Qt libraries, and we will evaluate applications developed with Qt for inclusion on the CD and default install of Ubuntu.

1. DEMAND
Yes, we think there is demand for users (jbicha)
2. WHAT IT WOULD CONTAIN
- GNOME flavor would push for the latest upstream GNOME
- Ubutntu Desktop would push for the latest stable GNOME that works with Unity
- There would be some tension there which would require both teams to co-operate closely.
- Unity would have priority as it is the primary distribution in Ubuntu.
- Flavors are limited to the packages available in the archive (can't ship newer packages if Ubuntu doesn't).
- We have an opportunity to be the "most GNOME distribution" but shipping as close to upstream as possible.
- If we ship Epiphany we are exposed to more security risks than Firefox - does that matter?
- We can only support GNOME Desktop, not GNOME OS - so we don't use system features (systemd, DM?, etc). At least not at the moment.
- Evolution, Documents, Boxes, etc.
- Maybe Firefox still / Maybe Epiphany
WebKit doesn't get security updates yet (Micah was maybe going to do that)
- Abiword/Gnumeric instead of LibreOffice
- DejaDup !
- GNOME Classic
- LightDM with a GNOME Shell plugin thing?
- Default theme (Adwaita)

Rasmus skrev:Men om Wayland faktiskt ska vara med i 12.10
lär det ju gå åt skogen ändå...

Bowmore skrev: Har väntat länge, länge på Single Window Mode.